The Gods vs. Science – A Modern Indian Debate

Sanjay Singh is one of the periphery characters in Anunnaki Awakening: Revelation. He’s helping to decipher the 450,000 year old tablets written in most of the world’s ancient languages and displaying astronomical and other knowledge far beyond anything conceivable my modern science in that time.

In Chapter 17, we pick up a dinner conversation between his father and him showing the spiritual and scientific divide that is alive and well in India today.

Of course, neither science nor religion has a good answer for the information being discovered on the tablets. Here is that chapter in its entirety. Enjoy!

vishnu_statue“Please pass the biryani ,” Sanjay Singh asked his eldest brother. His mother’s biryani embodied home cooking for him. As an esteemed professor in ancient language and culture at Delhi University, Sanjay could afford the progressive nuclear family lifestyle preferred by many middle class Indians. Instead, he maintained a traditional living arrangement—sharing a house with parents, siblings, in-laws, nieces, and nephews. His family was a well-known banking and business family in New Delhi, but Singh chose the academic route. They practiced Hinduism devoutly. Sanjay attended services and observed holidays with his family, but he faked it more than he believed. He was a scientist and an academic. Both often cast him in the role of family black sheep. Sanjay’s father (Manish) lived to discuss philosophy at the dinner table.

“Sanjay,” began Manish, “You have been silent lately about your work. Do you find it unfulfilling?”

“No, baba. I am engaged in a most puzzling project—deciphering ancient tablets for the U.S. government.”

“The U.S. government?” his father quizzed.

“Yes. The work fascinates, but our results to date defy logic. The project is classified. I can share no more.”

“And everything must be logical, Sanjay?” asked his father, not waiting for the answer.

“That is the trouble with the western mind. It deludes itself by dividing things until they make no sense. Here is spirituality. There is logic. Here is science. There is God. The Hindu mind finds the unity in it all.”

“Baba, this is an old argument and I do not wish to renew it now,” answered Sanjay.

“Simply stated, if you would pursue spiritual practice with as much vigor as you pursue science, answers might come to you,” badgered Manish.

“I must be careful what I share, but we are analyzing tablets that seem to predate human civilization. Yet, they contain references to advanced scientific and technical concepts. It’s baffling.”

“There is your western thinking again, Sanjay. Your science is in conflict, not with the facts, but with the facts your science says are true. What of our ancient texts?”

“What of them, baba?” Sanjay replied with frustration.

“They plainly state civilizations date back much further than the few thousand years your science believes. The writings vividly detail technologically advanced beings in those times. How do you account for that?”

“Baba, please. I am a scientist. I research these subjects with a scientist’s eye. Clearly, these texts are mythological and not based in fact.”

“You need proof? You doubt the wisdom of our sacred texts unless you can weigh and measure it. You cannot weigh wisdom. Lord Vishnu manifests the proof everywhere you look, Sanjay.”

“Perhaps, for you, baba. I want to believe, but subjective interpretations of reality are not scientifically valid. I do need proof.”

shiva_statue“What would you accept as proof, putra? Must Shiva fly in the sky above you? Must he destroy a city?”

The rest of the family was becoming uncomfortable. Sanjay’s mother asked him if he would like some more dalcha, hoping to change the subject.

“Thank you, but no, ma. Is it so wrong, baba, to demand proof? Is it so wrong not to believe even if a hundred generations have? Science nobly pursues truth through investigation and observation.”

“Observation, Sanjay! Truth cannot be observed. The truth is experienced here and now through the ancient texts and our feeling of connection to Lord Vishnu.”

Sanjay concealed the emotions welling within him. “I want to believe, baba, but I need to see to believe.”

“You have been corrupted by the western mind,” Manish threw his hands in the air.

“There is no hope for you.”

“Manish,” began Sanjay’s mother.

“Chandra, do not defend him. There is no defense. He chooses a mind of division over a mind that finds union with God.”

“And what union with God is there in these arguments, Manish?” Chandra replied. “You find your union in the Temple. Sanjay finds his in science. Is one superior to the other?”

“He will find no union with God so long as he continues to study the world by dividing it. He must realize that God is within him and he is within God,” argued Manish.

“There are many paths to that realization, baba,” Sanjay replied. “My mind is such that I must see. I hope, one day, that I will see. Until that day, I will continue to search.”

“God stares you in the face and still you search?”

“My mind cannot accept God as merely a concept. I must know who he is and I must know why he deserves my reverence.”

“Fool,” Manish shouted and left the table.

Sanjay’s youngest nephew began crying. Sanjay excused himself from the table. Why did he allow his father to drag him into these debates? He always felt dirty after their fights. He grabbed his ComTab, left the house, and walked down to the end of his block. He texted his friend, Rohan. Dr. Rohan Anand was a Professor of Astronomy at the university and friend since childhood.

“Where are you? I need to be out of the house tonight.” “Café Coffee Today,” replied Anand.

“Join me.” Sanjay turned right at the bus stop and walked three blocks to the neighborhood coffee shop. He found Rohan seated in a back corner, ComTab open and studying star charts on an app.

“Sanjay,” Rohan stood and embraced his friend, “how are you?”

“I’m well. I just experienced another culture clash with my father. I needed some distance from him.”

“I ordered a coffee for you. Come sit down. What was the argument about?”

“The same old debate. I have abandoned our traditional ways in favor of western science.”

“He sees the old India. You see the new. The nation moves forward with science and reason, not on superstition.”

“I wonder,” Sanjay began pensively, “is there not room for both the scientific and the spiritual? What would you do if Shiva appeared in the sky and destroyed a city?”

Anand laughed heartily. “I would take cover and then I would use science to determine what happened. I certainly would not fall back into superstition.”

“What about when evidence contradicts established facts?”

“Sanjay, we are friends since we were small boys. I know when something troubles you. What is it?”

“I am working on a U.S. government project classified Top Secret. I cannot share the details, but we have uncovered tablets firmly dated hundreds of thousands of years before modern humans existed, at least according to current science.”

Anand stared seriously at Sanjay. “So, the dating is wrong?”

“No. We have confirmed and reconfirmed with the latest dating techniques. The ages are valid.”

“Then it must be a hoax?”

“These are the genuine articles. Besides, the tablet text describes advanced knowledge—genetics, astronomy, and other sciences,” Sanjay said.

“The facts are puzzling,” replied Rohan, “but science will find the answer. You don’t need to invoke Shiva. Your father would invoke Shiva and so he remains trapped in the dark ages.”

Sanjay proceeded gingerly. “What are your thoughts on Intervention Theory?”

“I am unfamiliar with that theory.”

“The theory does not necessarily discount Darwinian evolution or deny intelligent design. It states human genetics were accelerated by an outside force.”

“Outside force?” questioned Anand, his eyebrow raised.

“Our project leader hired a consultant to help us solve the conundrum. She believes someone or something genetically modified evolving proto-humans accelerating our evolution. She believes the tablets are evidence of it.”

“Ridiculous! He should reject her theory as pseudo-science. From where could such intervention have come?”

With almost embarrassment, Sanjay looked to the sky and back at Anand.

“Sanjay,” implored Anand, “I don’t need to detail the reasons that conclusion is impossible, do I?”

Sanjay recited what he’d heard his friend declare many times. “No physical object can travel faster than the speed of light. The fuel needed to approach the speed of light is more than a spacecraft could carry. The distances are too great and physical hazards from dark matter make interstellar travel far too dangerous. Any advanced species would have understood this and given up long ago.”

“Well stated, professor,” Anand complimented with sarcasm.

“I’ve heard you express it many times, my friend. The logic seems irrefutable and so I have accepted it as fact.”

“It is more than a statement of logic. It is a statement of the fundamental limits of the universe.”

“How can we be sure, Rohan?”

“Mathematics, observation, common sense. Saying extraterrestrials did it, is as backward as saying Shiva did it. There is another explanation—a scientific explanation. You must continue searching for it.”

“You don’t believe extraterrestrials exist out there?”

“Whether they exist out there or not is irrelevant. They could not come here. I guarantee it. Your results are obviously troubling you and you’re allowing your father to affect your reasoning. Keep following the science.”

“And if Shiva suddenly appears in the sky?” laughed Sanjay.

“If Shiva suddenly appears in the sky,” laughed Anand, “I will renounce astronomy and join an ashram.”

Ray Davis is the author of Anunnaki Awakening: Revelation – order your signed copy today at – founder of The Affirmation Spot and an advocate for the potential of the human race. He’s life-long history buff and holds a B.S. in History Education. He’s always been fascinated by alternative views of history.

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About Ray Davis - The Affirmation Spot

I am the Founder of The Affirmation Spot, author of Annuanki Awakening, and co-founder of 6 Sense Media. My latest books are the Anunnaki Awakening: Revelation (Book 1 of a trilogy) and The Power to Be You: 417 Daily Thoughts and Affirmations for Empowerment. I have written prolifically on the topics of personal development and human potential for many years. By day, I write sales training for Fortune 100 company. I began studying affirmations and positive thinking after a life-threatening illness at 25. My thirst for self-improvement led him to read the writings of Joseph Campbell, Wayne Dyer, Deepak Chopra, Neale Donald Walsch, and many other luminaries in the fields of mythology and motivation. Over time, I have melded these ideas into my own philosophy on self-development. I have written, recorded, and used affirmations and other tools throughout that time to improve my own life and I have a passion for helping other reach for their goals and dreams. Ray holds a Bachelor's of Science Degree in Secondary Education in Social Studies from University of Kansas. He lives in Spring Hill, Ks with his wife.
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3 Responses to The Gods vs. Science – A Modern Indian Debate

  1. James says:

    Ray what background education in languages and linguistics do you have . I believe you said you have a bachelors degree in history, but history has many different aspects and where did you receive your degree?

    • Ray Davis says:

      Hi, James. I am not a linguist. I’m a native English speaker and know some French and Spanish. Yes. My degree is from The University of Kansas in Education and History. My areas of specialty were 19th and 20th Century American history and Renaissance Europe. When I was 25, I almost died. That experience began me on what had now been nearly a 30-year study of mythology and world religions. I wanted to understand how cultures around the world understand the meaning of our existence. Ironically, this chapter in my book has received special mention from several Indian readers for the way I captured the nature of this debate in India today.

      I’ve dedicated much

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